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[ophababes.]

ok i dont know why youre so hype

but let me be clear. my statement and stance in no way lends credence or validity to what nipsey said abd i just want to make that plain because it seems like you were trying to make a connection there which is a complete reach.

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

which is why i 100% am OK with what NIpsey said about fags in the media. if he feels uncomfortable seeing feminine black men on TV cuz he feels there's an "agenda", he has the right to feel that way

[ophababes.]

which is why i 100% am OK with what NIpsey said about fags in the media. if he feels uncomfortable seeing feminine black men on TV cuz he feels there's an "agenda", he has the right to feel that way

ccccv like

we're talking about romantic preference not the right to say ignorant things

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Nipsey is dead

HE.IS.NOT.GOING.TO.FUCK.YOU

[Arcstrider]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

a legitimate issue to whom? why do they need to evaluate why they feel the way that they do? because you dont agree with it? again its their preference

and what exactly are you categorizing as "toxic" exactly? what are the specific traits that you feel are specifically referred to when it comes to masc 4 masc. because for me its mannerisms and speech, etc.

and again that is not saying its bad or wrong to have feminine mannerisms or speech. simply saying it doesn't make my dick hard.

A legitimate issue for themselves being that they just might miss out on the love of their life due to something trivial. It is possible to want something and to miss out on the bigger picture is all I'm saying. For all you know, until you get to really know a person, that one guy that might have feminine mannerisms would be the one that's best for you in the long run. I'm not saying it's the case, but it's a possibility. "Masc4Masc" guys are just really rigid when it comes to dating. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but you could also be a little short-sighted and deprive yourself in the process.

[Arcstrider]

I agree that saying you just want a "guy next door" is a bit different than saying "masc4masc".

a guy next door could def be a multitude of things ....it's a bit more ambiguous than flat owt saying "masculine men only".

i think everyone has the right to want what they want, though.

Right. At the end of the day, I just would like to be with someone that I really vibe with. Though masculinity does play a factor, it's not the sole deciding factor for me. I've talked to guys who were more on the feminine side of the spectrum, I guess, but they still appealed to me because of the things they were into. Plus, they were still hot, so... 🤷‍♂️ It just didn't work out for other reasons beyond that.

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

which is why i 100% am OK with what NIpsey said about fags in the media. if he feels uncomfortable seeing feminine black men on TV cuz he feels there's an "agenda", he has the right to feel that way

ccccv like

we're talking about romantic preference not the right to say ignorant things

I just have never seen someone go so hard for someone who considered people like him as "weak".
It's like a Jew stanning for Hitler.

[Kaeli.]

Poor us

fsfdffdffd

[ophababes.]

see how that works?

no. you're try to string two issues together that aren't comparable.

last i'll say on that

[Kaeli.]

as a woman,  i don't understand what u fags are so strung up about when it comes to this fem..masc..vers...

ur all men who like to put things up ur dookie hole. find common ground in that and unify

[ophababes.]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

a legitimate issue to whom? why do they need to evaluate why they feel the way that they do? because you dont agree with it? again its their preference

and what exactly are you categorizing as "toxic" exactly? what are the specific traits that you feel are specifically referred to when it comes to masc 4 masc. because for me its mannerisms and speech, etc.

and again that is not saying its bad or wrong to have feminine mannerisms or speech. simply saying it doesn't make my dick hard.

A legitimate issue for themselves being that they just might miss out on the love of their life due to something trivial. It is possible to want something and to miss out on the bigger picture is all I'm saying. For all you know, until you get to really know a person, that one guy that might have feminine mannerisms would be the one that's best for you in the long run. I'm not saying it's the case, but it's a possibility. "Masc4Masc" guys are just really rigid when it comes to dating. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but you could also be a little short-sighted and deprive yourself in the process.

with all due respect, this just seems to be your one dimensional take on what you think men want or feel when they say masc 4 masc. maybe its rooted in an experience, which i can totally respect. but the very idea "masc 4 masc" guys could "miss out" is kinda ridiculous to me. how can i miss out on a guy that im not attracted to.

this also assumes thats the only requirement, which is not the case. thats just one of many preferences.

i think its also worth noting all of us as men (gay or straight) possess some level of femeninity. im not, nor do i think most m4m men are looking for a complete absence of femeninity. thats unhealthy even.

but if you pop and twirl, i love you, i support you, im just not attracted to you. that doesn't mean i cant enjoy all you have to offer as a person. and if hell freezes over and i fall for yas one day... dont see it happening but hey!

till then where manly mens at

[ophababes.]

which is why i 100% am OK with what NIpsey said about fags in the media. if he feels uncomfortable seeing feminine black men on TV cuz he feels there's an "agenda", he has the right to feel that way

ccccv like

we're talking about romantic preference not the right to say ignorant things

I just have never seen someone go so hard for someone who considered people like him as "weak".
It's like a Jew stanning for Hitler.

and i really tried to make it make sense too but... it just doesn't 

[Arcstrider]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

a legitimate issue to whom? why do they need to evaluate why they feel the way that they do? because you dont agree with it? again its their preference

and what exactly are you categorizing as "toxic" exactly? what are the specific traits that you feel are specifically referred to when it comes to masc 4 masc. because for me its mannerisms and speech, etc.

and again that is not saying its bad or wrong to have feminine mannerisms or speech. simply saying it doesn't make my dick hard.

A legitimate issue for themselves being that they just might miss out on the love of their life due to something trivial. It is possible to want something and to miss out on the bigger picture is all I'm saying. For all you know, until you get to really know a person, that one guy that might have feminine mannerisms would be the one that's best for you in the long run. I'm not saying it's the case, but it's a possibility. "Masc4Masc" guys are just really rigid when it comes to dating. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but you could also be a little short-sighted and deprive yourself in the process.

with all due respect, this just seems to be your one dimensional take on what you think men want or feel when they say masc 4 masc. maybe its rooted in an experience, which i can totally respect. but the very idea "masc 4 masc" guys could "miss out" is kinda ridiculous to me. how can i miss out on a guy that im not attracted to.

this also assumes thats the only requirement, which is not the case. thats just one of many preferences.

i think its also worth noting all of us as men (gay or straight) possess some level of femeninity. im not, nor do i think most m4m men are looking for a complete absence of femeninity. thats unhealthy even.

but if you pop and twirl, i love you, i support you, im just not attracted to you. that doesn't mean i cant enjoy all you have to offer as a person. and if hell freezes over and i fall for yas one day... dont see it happening but hey!

till then where manly mens at

Yeah, you just don't get it. Godspeed.

[ophababes.]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

a legitimate issue to whom? why do they need to evaluate why they feel the way that they do? because you dont agree with it? again its their preference

and what exactly are you categorizing as "toxic" exactly? what are the specific traits that you feel are specifically referred to when it comes to masc 4 masc. because for me its mannerisms and speech, etc.

and again that is not saying its bad or wrong to have feminine mannerisms or speech. simply saying it doesn't make my dick hard.

A legitimate issue for themselves being that they just might miss out on the love of their life due to something trivial. It is possible to want something and to miss out on the bigger picture is all I'm saying. For all you know, until you get to really know a person, that one guy that might have feminine mannerisms would be the one that's best for you in the long run. I'm not saying it's the case, but it's a possibility. "Masc4Masc" guys are just really rigid when it comes to dating. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but you could also be a little short-sighted and deprive yourself in the process.

with all due respect, this just seems to be your one dimensional take on what you think men want or feel when they say masc 4 masc. maybe its rooted in an experience, which i can totally respect. but the very idea "masc 4 masc" guys could "miss out" is kinda ridiculous to me. how can i miss out on a guy that im not attracted to.

this also assumes thats the only requirement, which is not the case. thats just one of many preferences.

i think its also worth noting all of us as men (gay or straight) possess some level of femeninity. im not, nor do i think most m4m men are looking for a complete absence of femeninity. thats unhealthy even.

but if you pop and twirl, i love you, i support you, im just not attracted to you. that doesn't mean i cant enjoy all you have to offer as a person. and if hell freezes over and i fall for yas one day... dont see it happening but hey!

till then where manly mens at

Yeah, you just don't get it. Godspeed.

or i have a substantive argument on the matter that you can't rebut. and thanks, same to you.

[Arcstrider]

The problem with "masc4masc" is that it focuses primarily on what could be considered "toxic" masculinity. People who say that generally have deep mental issues, I've noticed. A lot of straight guys don't even take themselves that seriously. 

All I need is the average "guy next door" type, and I'm fine.

the "guys next door" would be considered masculine tho bby

and im kinda missing your point because its masc 4 masc the keyword being 4. its literally one person saying what they want for themselves. so its confusing to me why anyone else would have anything to say about that

unless they were just bitter that they themselves are not whats on the menu. thats the only thing i can think otherwise why do they care? how does it effect them? lol.

personally, if im not someones type, thats a turn off for me lol next-a!

but to complain 

"Guy next door" is much less restrictive, than what "masc4masc" suggests. From what I've noticed, people who say "masc4masc" focus in on the male archetype, what could be considered traits of "toxic" masculinity.

And it's fine if people want that for themselves, but it does become a legitimate issue beyond a certain point where people should just take a step back and really self-evaluate as to why they feel the way they do.

a legitimate issue to whom? why do they need to evaluate why they feel the way that they do? because you dont agree with it? again its their preference

and what exactly are you categorizing as "toxic" exactly? what are the specific traits that you feel are specifically referred to when it comes to masc 4 masc. because for me its mannerisms and speech, etc.

and again that is not saying its bad or wrong to have feminine mannerisms or speech. simply saying it doesn't make my dick hard.

A legitimate issue for themselves being that they just might miss out on the love of their life due to something trivial. It is possible to want something and to miss out on the bigger picture is all I'm saying. For all you know, until you get to really know a person, that one guy that might have feminine mannerisms would be the one that's best for you in the long run. I'm not saying it's the case, but it's a possibility. "Masc4Masc" guys are just really rigid when it comes to dating. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but you could also be a little short-sighted and deprive yourself in the process.

with all due respect, this just seems to be your one dimensional take on what you think men want or feel when they say masc 4 masc. maybe its rooted in an experience, which i can totally respect. but the very idea "masc 4 masc" guys could "miss out" is kinda ridiculous to me. how can i miss out on a guy that im not attracted to.

this also assumes thats the only requirement, which is not the case. thats just one of many preferences.

i think its also worth noting all of us as men (gay or straight) possess some level of femeninity. im not, nor do i think most m4m men are looking for a complete absence of femeninity. thats unhealthy even.

but if you pop and twirl, i love you, i support you, im just not attracted to you. that doesn't mean i cant enjoy all you have to offer as a person. and if hell freezes over and i fall for yas one day... dont see it happening but hey!

till then where manly mens at

Yeah, you just don't get it. Godspeed.

or i have a substantive argument on the matter that you can't rebut. and thanks, same to you.

Actually, no, it's anything but. I just find it funny that you can say that I have a one-dimensional take on it when all I'm suggesting to you is to look beyond your own preferences. People always think they know so solidly what they want and what they're not attracted to.

And, not only that, you're trying to diminish my argument by trying to turn this around on me. I'm not even saying anything negative towards you. I don't have anything to gain out of this. 🤷‍♂️